Podcast Short 0:51 October 15, 2026From Season 2, Episode 10

Why Timely Filing Failures Are Self-Inflicted Denials

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David Kelly·Chief of Ambulatory Operations & Vice President of Revenue Cycle, Mary Rutan Health
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David Kelly calls timely filing denials an "own goal" and argues they deserve their own reporting category separate from payer-driven denials. The fringe case, a John Doe emergency admission where insurance cannot be identified until after the filing window closes, is the exception that proves the rule: nearly every timely filing denial is the result of a claim that simply did not get out the door on time, which means it is fully within the organization's control to prevent. Treating timely filing as just another denial management problem obscures accountability and prevents the focused process discipline needed to eliminate it.

Key Takeaway

Timely filing denials are almost never caused by payers and almost always caused by the organization itself. Separating them from payer-driven denials in reporting makes the accountability clear and creates the pressure needed to fix the underlying submission process.

“Timely filing is an own goal. If you don’t get the claim out the door, you did that to yourself.”

David Kelly, Chief of Ambulatory Operations & Vice President of Revenue Cycle, Mary Rutan Health

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Season 2 · Episode 10 · 51 min

The Road to Zero-Touch RCM: Agentic AI, Denials Prevention, and Operator Ownership in Revenue Cycle

David Kelly · Chief of Ambulatory Operations & Vice President of Revenue Cycle, Mary Rutan Health

David Kelly returns to the RC Executive Lounge for his second appearance to discuss claims denial management with a focus on prevention, operator ownership, and what it takes to drive step-function improvement at a community hospital. Drawing on more than 19 years of healthcare experience and his role as Chief of Ambulatory Operations and Vice President of Revenue Cycle at Mary Rutan Health, David frames denials management as a multi-year discipline shaped by a constantly shifting payer landscape, and walks through his framework for defining denial never events, the rise of records requests as a top denial driver, and why benchmarking against state-level payer scorecards is more meaningful than national averages. The conversation covers a recent clearing house migration at Mary Rutan, including how his team executed a 100-day go-live with minimal disruption to gross denial rates, the lessons learned around codifying vendor commitments in writing and building training specificity into the project plan, and how he measures success for a migration of that scale. David shares a genuinely split perspective on agentic AI and the vision of zero-touch RCM: deep optimism about what autonomous agents could accomplish if they could touch every denial, reduce the number of passes required to resolve a claim, and ingest thousands of annual payer policy changes faster than any human team, alongside realistic concern about the uncertain road ahead and the public backlash against patient-facing AI. He closes with his view of yield as the A1C equivalent for revenue cycle health, the three barriers he sees most often blocking step-function improvement, and his core leadership principle: bring denials to the clinical operators, because that is where most denials originate and where the most effective prevention partnerships are built.

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